Primer & Drywall Mud Show Through Paint
I have touched up walls with primer or drywall mud. After painting it is obvious where the touchups were done. I suspect a second coat will cover up, but wondering if there is another option for next time to save the extra effort.
Thanks in advance for your input.
ItzMe
you can coat it first with "kilz" it prevents wall strains from "bleeding" thru. you can find it at home/d, walley world, or just about any hardware store. but if you have done any wall like mud work more than likely 2 coats will be needed reguardless.......kenmax[ Edited by kenmax on Date 03/30/2004 ]
Why are you touching up a wall using primer? It sounds like you are painting the entire wall after your touch up, which is good. But if you are painting over a yellow wall and you did your touch ups with white primer, you should expect to see the primer spots through the first coat of paint. Any painter worth his brushes is going to tell you two coats is always required for a professional paint job.
At the very least after you make your touch up and primer, as soon as the primer dries I would go over that spot with the paint you are going to paint the wall with.
I suspect in regard to the drywall mud touch ups you are seeing them because of the difference in texture between the orangepeal texture of the existing wall and the smooth texture of the dry wall mud repair? If that is the case you need to match the texture with a texture gun or get really good with those little cans of texture they sell at Home Depot.
If you are painting a dark color over a light primer consider tinting the primer dark first. Especiall for those Ralph Lauren colors the women love. The dark reds are especially troublesome and need 6 coats if the primer is not tinted dark grey first.
It sounds like you may have to step up a grade in your paint if you want to stick with a white primer. It's tough to cover white primer in one coat with anything, but the higher the grade of paint the better your luck will be. One trick that seems to work well for me, is to use a primer/paint in place of the straight primer. What I do, is to get Walmart's 20 yr. primer/paint matched to the same color that I use on all my rental interiors. Often one coat of the primer/paint will match close enough that I am done. I think the most I have had to do is put one coat of paint over it.
Thanks and what wonderful suggestions! The reason I was touching up with primer was because the surface was paneling which had been scraped (paint rubbed off).
I really like the idea of painting over just the primer when it is dry with the finish paint, then painting the entire wall. I think I'll try that first!
Once again thanks! What a wonderful resource this board is.
ItzMe (with primer still on my fingernails)
Also make sure to sand the patch. If you don't sand it to the same level as the rest of the surface you will never get rid of the spot.
We always tint our primer the same color as the paint. It doesn't cost me any extra ( we buy a lot of paint from this store) and may be an option for others. It also guarantees that I just need one finish coat.
Glad your project is going well.
Terry
If I may add my 2 cents worth.........sometimes, it doesnt matter what paint or primer you put on......it will still show through. Any time you use glossy finishes, darker colors and depending on the lighting conditions, you will most likely see the difference in the finishes........drywall mud and drywall paper are different materials and therefore will show differently......at least until you get numerous (lots)of paint on both.
I went through this mess when I was painting and touching up a 120 unit complex for new renters......you could look down the walls and see every nail hole and patch job there ever was........especially for those that like to put stupid tooth paste in the holes........I wanted to beat those individuals with an ugly stick. (smile)
NC
The toothpaste trick! I would love to know who the hell came up with that one too!
I was fixing up our house at the lake, happens I was at the point of prepping the walls for paint, so I was doing a bit of minor drywalling and filling in nail holes. My sister came in and she was trying to help out here and there, the bath room was the next room that I was going to paint, when I enter it, I found my sister -- GACK! filling in nail holes with tooth paste!!!!!!!!!
She simply couldn't understand why I was so horrified.
It is one thing when you think of those toothpasters as some faceless rube, or slobbering goob, but it is a slap to your pride when you find out your own sister is part of their rank and file!