Driving Mr. Ed Under The Influence

If you want to drink and drive in PA, a horse may be your vehicle of choice. The PA Supreme Court recently held that the state's drunk driving law doesn't apply to drunken riders of horses.

Three guys were arrested for DUI--2 were riding horses. All 3 failed the sobriety test. The third guy was driving a pickup that rear-ended one horse (ouch). The PA Supreme Court agreed that the charges should be dropped against the horse riders since it found that PA's law was unclear which provisions applied to people riding animals and which did not.

The lone dissenter, Justice Eakin, said in part:

"A horse is a horse, of course, of course,
but the Vehicle Code does not divorce
its application from, perforce,
a steed, as my colleagues said.
'It's not vague,' I'll say until I'm hoarse,
and whether a car, a truck or horse
this law applies with equal force,
and I've reverse instead."

Comments(8)

  • NC_Yank29th September, 2004

    What if the horse is drunk......?

    Evidently the majority of the judges like to drink and ride, gallop, trot..... (smile)

    NC

  • gfpd3113rd October, 2004

    In NC you are except if on a horse, bicycle, or lawn mower. Attached is the General Statute 20-138.1. Pay special attention to G.S. 20-138.1(e) the exceptions

    20-138.1. Impaired driving.
    (a)Offense. - A person commits the offense of impaired
    driving if he drives any vehicle upon any highway, any street,
    or any public vehicular area within this State:
    (1) While under the influence of an impairing
    substance; or
    (2) After having consumed sufficient alcohol that he
    has, at any relevant time after the driving, an
    alcohol concentration of 0.08 or more.
    (b) Defense Precluded. - The fact that a person charged with
    violating this section is or has been legally entitled to use
    alcohol or a drug is not a defense to a charge under this
    section.
    (c) Pleading. - In any prosecution for impaired driving, the
    pleading is sufficient if it states the time and place of the
    alleged offense in the usual form and charges that the defendant
    drove a vehicle on a highway or public vehicular area while
    subject to an impairing substance.
    (d) Sentencing Hearing and Punishment. - Impaired driving as
    defined in this section is a misdemeanor. Upon conviction of a
    defendant of impaired driving, the presiding judge must hold a
    sentencing hearing and impose punishment in accordance with G.S.
    20-179.
    (e) Exception. - Notwithstanding the definition of "vehicle"
    pursuant to G.S. 20-4.01(49), for purposes of this section the
    word "vehicle" does not include a horse, bicycle, or lawnmower.
    (1983, c. 435, s. 24; 1989, c. 711, s. 2; 1993, c. 285, s. 1.)

    Marty

  • NC_Yank4th October, 2004

    Hey Marty,

    I know all about NC......I was a cop here for almost 10 years......had arrested over 1000 dwi's.......including those on mopeds....lol.

    NC does have tough DWI laws.....except the state (county) mecklenburg which is a joke due to political bias.

    Like if your the county manager and get caught for DWI.......well we will reduce it to C&R (careless and reckless driving).....or maybe a charlotte cop....we will reduce it also to C&R.

    I have arrested cops from other agencies on DWI charges....it made no difference to me......they could have easily killed my family just as anyone else.

    Anyway, such is the judicial system.......money talks.

    NC

  • mattfish114th October, 2004

    Be carefule in NJ if riding a lawnmower while drunk... My buddy is a police officer and his partner gave a DUI to a guy who was drinking and mowing... The law applies to (I believe) any engine with 5 or more horsepower!!

    I guess a horse is only 1 horsepower?!?
    [addsig]

  • NancyChadwick4th October, 2004

    Matty,

    Sounds like folks in NJ should grab the beer(s), dump the mowers and get themselves a horse. As for a horse = 1 horsepower, I think it depends on the horse. It seems that 1 HP = 33,000 foot lbs per minute (or lifting 330 lbs 100 ft in 1 minute). So if you've got a really big horse, who knows what NJ cops would do?

    Nancy

  • 64Ford4th October, 2004

    For a rather extensive list of stupid laws, go to www.dumblaws.com.
    One we found particularly amusing is in FL:
    You may not fart in a public place after 6 P.M. on Thursdays.

  • NancyChadwick4th October, 2004

    64Ford,

    Interesting choice of venue for the first debate, eh?

    Nancy

  • mattfish116th October, 2004

    Good Point Nancy!!
    [addsig]

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