Painting Ceiling & Walls
I have an apt I am scraping popcorn off ceiling & there are a few stain spots. What is the best way to redo this ceiling, repopcorn it or paint it white or should I paint it another color.
Also bedrooms walls need to be repaint, the walls are cement.
What is a good color of paint to use that is bright & no white. I do not want to paint bedrooms white.
Any suggestions?
We have had success with spray Kilz paint to cover stains, spots, everything. Fast drying, too.
We like Kilim Beige (Sherwin-Williams) for color and one coat cover. It seems to reflect light nicely, even in dark rooms or basements. It is a warm beige that looks a little darker at first than it is.
depending on how damaged the drywall got stripping the popcorn, I would look at the various textured finished that are available.
Is the spray Killz different than the regular Killz primer? I prime everything with Killz, but by the bucket, not one can at a time!
Chris
Keep in mind that if the popcorn was installed prior to about 1980 it probably is full of asbestos. You might want to have it tested before removal.
Removing dry popcorn spray is were hard and tedious and, as you may have found out, leaves a very rourh surface that is not ready to paint. If you mist the ceiling with a small garden sprayer the texture is a lot easier to remove. Typically, ceilings that are sprayed, only have two coats of tape and mud and are not as smooth as the walls that have 3-4 coats and then sanded. If you paint over a 2 coat ceiling every seam and butt joit will show up and you will have shadow lines all over the ceiling. It is a lot of work to prepare a ceiling for paint---Hence - they are sprayed. Check you competion and find out if they are doing popcorn or knockdown ceilings.
Kilz and then a knockdown texture works really well and looks great on ceilins where you remove popcorn
Is the spray Killz different than the regular Killz primer? I prime everything with Killz, but by the bucket, not one can at a time!
Chris, yes, there are oil based and lated based Kilz. I think the spray is formulated differently. On heavy stains I always try to use oil based Kilz... and let it dry overnight. I generally use "upshots" on smaller areas, but I use my Titan 330i sprayer on large areas (whole rooms of dark red paint, for instance.)
By the way, to remove larger areas of popcorn ceiling, I use my Titan and just spray warm water over the area. It saves tons of time. Let it soak for 10 or so minutes, then spray a second coat of water. Sometimes I do 3 coats... and the popcorn comes down easily....
Especially good for spot stains is a Shellac-based primer. They tend to be expensive, but when it comes to cost-benefit analysis this stuff is invaluable. HD and Loews carry them under the Zinsser brand.
I found them to be very good on drywall and wood and best of all one can apply several coats without the excessive build up and it dries very fast. Because of the fast drying it makes it difficult to be applied on large areas, but it is excellent for spots.
Regards,
And about the lead issue, the paint is fairly recent but if there was any lead in it, the paint removing is wet. Nothing is airborne. There is no dust nor are there any paint chips. When you take it off, it feels like rubber.
Even though you have read the info on the remover can/ container, and most likely shown it to the tenant perhaps you should write the company, address tenants issues with the company who makes the product and let them assure tenant there is no problem. This would also give you something in writing to use if need be later. just a thought.
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