Motel Financing Alternatives

Any help on this would be much appreciated. I am in contract to purchase a flagged motel in Ohio. Purchase price around $1.5 million. I am putting around $500 K into the deal. The motel needs work and the numbers are not that great at the moment but it has huge upside potential. Since I am a full time real estate investor for the past 6 years I have tried not to show any income on my tax returns. My credit score is excellent (high 700s). I am trying to get a stated income loan and do not want to go through the BS of getting an SBA backed loan. My problem is that all of the potential lenders and banks I have spoke with are leary to finance this project because I do not have any motel management experience. They all want me to hire a management company to do the management. There is just not enough "juice" in the deal to have to hire an outside management company. I plan on managing the motel myself and over time putting money into the property to fix things such as the roof, blacktop, A/Cs, etc. and I know I have the management skills to turn this around and bring the numbers up enough to where in 2 years sell the property for around $2.3 million. My question is where are the lenders for these projects? I know they are out there. confused confused

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  • dawgdom27th July, 2005

    [ Edited by Mize on Date 07/28/2005 ]

  • ramawalker7th July, 2005

    I forgot to mention that the property is in a great area of NC.........excellent location, location, location. I anticipate this market to do really well in the next few years b/c home prices, etc. are still very affordable in comparison to the truly hot appreciating markets in the US.

  • cjmazur7th July, 2005

    is that a great enough reward for risk?

    What are the planning/zoning/etc. barriors to converstion.

  • commercialking8th July, 2005

    Well a couple of things:

    Its an interesting project. The existing financing is not particularly important since you will need to refinance to do a condo conversion anyway. So a net before debt figure is more important than a net after debt figure.

    A 20% margin on a condo conversion is actually pretty slim. There are lots of carrying, marketing and conversion costs that need to be considered.

    How did you arrive at the post-conversion values?

    You can register an e-mail address even if you are not a paying member and then people can e-mail you. Although a guy thinking about doing 3 million dollar deals too cheap to lay out 100 bucks is something you gotta wonder about.

  • ramawalker8th July, 2005

    commercialking,

    Would you mind telling me where to post my email address so that others can see it without breaking the rules of the forum?

    Thank you.

  • commercialking8th July, 2005

    Well as far as posting your e-mail address goes go to "my TCI" then "my info" should be a place there to add it.

  • cjmazur8th July, 2005

    legal is going to be huge. In CA to comply w/ the land act, subdivision map act and to draft a CCR / form HOA for a 52 unit complex, I was given a budget of 100K.

    Good luck.

  • commercialking8th July, 2005

    you also have to check yes under "do you want other TCI users to be able to contact you via e-mail" in e-mail preferences on that same screen

  • commercialking8th July, 2005

    Chet:

    Wow, here in Chicago you could get that done for less than 10K.

  • cjmazur8th July, 2005

    there are some loop holes.

    <5 unit or same owners since 77. The lagal can kill you here.

  • bob_doe345518th July, 2005

    Hi, I am considering buying an apartment, which is currently being renovated. This is in Virginia. I need some help in hiring some consultants to do the condo conversion. Any suggestions?

  • specprop3rd August, 2005

    Can anyone tell me how to come up with proforma expenses for condo conversion? Is there a book or publication?

    I understand that there will be legal fees and upgrade costs. Each property will have different upgrade requirements. What other costs should we consider? How do we put a number to them?

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