Just Got Paid.

Hello,

Just wanted to let you know that I just got a check for $17,600. I was expecting 20k, but I paid for a few of my buyer's costs.

Took the property Subject To. We had written out a contract on a moving box; then I walked out with the deed in hand!

No money. I mean not one cent in any way went to the seller. She was kind enough to take a promisary note with no percentage or monthly payment! The note was due on the sale of the home.

Thanks, John $Cash$ Locke! Were you here, I'd take you out for a day on the boat!

Does it work? Yes. Can YOU do it? Yes.

Thanks,

OnTheWater :-D

PS I currently have the flu, and it's horrible, but knowing that I just deposited that chunk of chain in the bank seems to make all the aches and pains trivial:-D

Comments(13)

  • just_for_giggles22nd October, 2004

    Mega CONGRATS!

    PS - hope your flu flies away quickly smile

  • DaShow22nd October, 2004

    AWESOME DUDE! A moving box? That's hilarious. Kudos to myself, I just got a check for $45k yesterday! Keep up the good work and the stories.

  • jfmlv195022nd October, 2004

    Way to go.

    Love those success stories and I know you'll have a lot of them.

    John (LV)

  • EagleDennis23rd October, 2004

    May sound dumb...but how's you get a check at closing? Just interested to know how this deal went down? Oh yeah: Congrats and get well soon!!!

  • OnTheWater23rd October, 2004

    Hello,

    How did I get a check at closing?

    When the buyer purchased the home from me, the difference between what I owed and what I sold it for was what I got at closing.

    Deal:
    My seller held a note for the $ I owed them. The deed was put into my name. The buyer purchased the home from me. I also set the buyer up with my mortgage broker who got them the loan. At closing a check was sent to the person from which I bought the propety, and a check was cut to me. I got the check sent to me overnight, and I deposited it the next day.

    Well, Wisconsin is playing Northwestern right now; being I'm from WI, I'm going to go watch the rest of the game.

    After the game, I'm gonna get on the blower and call all the FSBOs that I had got from driving our neighborhood. If I gotta make 100 calls to earn 20k, so be it. "Gotta keep on keepin' on."

    Thanks,

    OTW :-D

  • suntzu1823rd October, 2004

    Congrats gys that's awesome-
    I am also interested in the mechanics of both deals, how it went down, etc...

    Suntzu18

  • DaShow24th October, 2004

    I got the 45k at closing as well, and I was the buyer! House was appraised at $250k, I already was approved for $245k. So I had the seller sign 2 contracts; One for $200k and one for $245(which I presented the latter to the bank). I then had them sign a $45k mortgage note to a friend of mine, hence at closing it was like paying off a 2nd mortgage so everyone got paid, and the sellers don't get taxed on it. It's a beautiful thing!

  • miraclehomes24th October, 2004

    OKI don't fully understand. You borrowed 245k on a house that 200k was owed on. Now, you have to eventually pay back the extra 45k, so you actually didn't make it. If I am wrong here, please explain this to me.

  • writebrain24th October, 2004

    I think DaShow was very creative there. but, yes, that money is still owed. I think we're dealing with two different stories here. If I'm understanding correctly, DaShow's deal is more of a NMD technique, though he actually got the cash for the 2nd and can use that for other purchases, so technically it's cash back (it's just "borrowed" cash back).

  • miraclehomes24th October, 2004

    Yes, That is what I thought. Not trying to be negative, but if it isn't cash money that I never have to pay back, I don't want it. I understand the scenario of takinge heard that money to make more money, and paying that off, etc...- but if you have to keep borrrowing money to make money- it never ends. I have heard many people preach about doing this, but no matter what, it is still borrowed money.

  • JohnCl25th October, 2004

    OnTheWater,

    Mucho Congrats!!!

    Just wanted to clarify something: There would have been three checks, right? One to you, one to the seller for the note, and one to the underlying mortgagor, right?

    JohnCl

  • joemac124125th October, 2004

    Depends on the seller's base, marital status, and time in residence (2/5 rule) if they are going to pay taxes on it.

    Also, the 45K second is going to be interesting to account for if the original 2nd note was created b/w the seller and your friend w/o any cash changing hands. You're friend will also have an interesting time accounting for the $45k income (payoff of the note from the new lender) when he has no base on it.

    This is an easy way to trick a lender into financing more than the purchase price to get the money up front. The same thing can be accomplished by finding a lender that will finance based on appraisal value or finance 125% of purchase price (but you'll pay on the rate). If you don't need the money up front, you can always wait the 6-12 mos and pull a HELOC to get the equity out.

    Creative accounting can get people in trouble as well!

  • OnTheWater1st November, 2004

    # of checks?

    Let's see.

    Check one: from my buyer.
    Check two: to my seller.
    Check three: to me.

    Thanks,

    OTW :-D

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