John Beck and PMI coaching
Hi All!
I'm new to this site. I ordered John Becks free and clear, I usually don't pay attention to informercials, the info looks legit. but I have a question regarding the "invitation" to join his inner circle. this involves registering with an outfit or outfits called Marketing solutions international or PMI coaching. Both seem to be based out of Utah.
Has anyone gone through this "training"?
How much does it cost? Was it worth it?
is it a scam??
thanks in advance to all of you!
Peter 
All else being equal, I would look for training in my home stste only.
What information do you have about it? I live near Salt Lake City and would be interested in finding out more about it. I'll let you know what I find out.
The John Beck info is good, but the PMI Coaching has a lot to be desired. I checked with the BBB and PMI ain't looking good.
I like John Beck. Met him and talked to him in person. He actually buys and sells property. Had a friend that took his boot camp I actually learned alot from talking to my friend who took his course.
ADDITION: I don't know anything about PMI consulting.[ Edited by MrsMeltzer on Date 08/01/2003 ]
from what i undersyand is that they have a very bad rating with BBB. so I would not suggest it.
Yes PMI coaching is a company that sells business opportunities and the caoches are not "experts as they claim, they are just common guys that are paid by "appointment" and follow a curricula. I worked for a competitor of these guys and sold coaching for John Beck ted Thomas and others. Understand this, Whe you buy a kit from an infomercial, the $40 or so investment is just the hook to get your info, these guys turn around and sell the "lead". Yes you become a lead, a very good one because if you purchased from an infomercial you got a degree of being seriuos and you want to risk it. You can find better info here at TC forums instead of paying $5000 plus.
Check on ****Must Reach Senior Investor status before posting URL's*** (search under pmi ) adn you will see many people are unsatisfied. The only thing that I liked of working there was the commision check I got (I did not care if the guy I sold to made money or not). Utah is a hotbed for these companies.
UTinvestor,
Glad to meet you.
I received an email not to long ago from someone who was in the same position you where in. Only he went into a lot more detail of what really goes on after the seminar with the hired help and the lead collectors.
I posted not to long ago, if Ron, Carleton and Russ, each sold a million courses then there would be 60,000 investors in every state. I know it seems like there is sometimes from all the I Buy House signs you see.
Now the top infomercial people are selling courses how to make millions selling courses, it seems like a never ending cycle.
Here is what I believe, every course has some ideas that will work for the individual reading the course. Some people will make it and do very well.
So either lead, follow or get the heck out of the way for the ones who trully believe they have what it takes to become a creative real estate investor.
There are course writers out there who really care about helping their students, so I say to everyone do not be discouraged you may be the future leader in real estate investing because of your accomplishments.
Good perspective on what is all about, from some people in our great industry.
John $Cash$ Locke
Hi Peter,
I bought John Becks books. Info ok The mentor program no good. Go to the link below and read how so many people got scamed.
Hope I was able to give you some info. Tax liens are new to me also. Just keep doing your research via the internet and make sure you are familiar with all of the different laws each state has.
www.ripoffreport.com/reports/ripoff74289.htm
hello Peter,
I'm going to get straight to the point, Beck's mentor program cost $3800 for 11, 45min coaching segments.
ALM
Education doesn’t mean anything. Don’t get me wrong: We can say the word “education” and get that special feeling inside, as if we’re chanting some sacred incantation.
In this manner, education is nothing more than a disposable product. This may seem outrageously idealistic, but I was under the impression that the meaning of education fell somewhere near enlightenment. I’m not talking spiritually. I’m talking in terms of knowledge that goes beyond the mere storage and repetition of mundane information or workshop lingo.
I’m talking about the difference between treating education like a dear loved one, and treating it like a cheap one-night stand. The prevailing attitude in our mainstream culture is the latter. Although we can get so worked up about funding, class size, and pedagogical methods, what does any of this means if we do not infuse education with human value?
Education should be about encouraging the importance of learning in concert with knowing. The emphasis on knowing something is overrated and serves to further the degradation of learning in our society. It’s the same emphasis that encourages “knowing everything you need to know”
This prevailing attitude will never value education past its practical function as a disposable package to be tossed into the trash once its contents have been consumed. With such an approach, it is next to impossible to spark the desire to learn.
If it cost you $10,000 to learn how to profit in real estate, you can profit from it for the rest of your life.
A student of mine sold his car and cashed out his savings just to learn how to become an investor, his education cost was $7,000 he spent 4 days with me at a cost of $1,750 per day. Last year he made $300,000 and his net worth went from just under $5,000 to $875,000 in 12 months.
Not all have what it takes to be successful as the above student, but all can have moderate success as an investor and easily make $50,000 to $100,000 their first year if they are willing to learn and work hard!
I am not advocating this extreme desire to learn, but you have to decide as an Investor what you are willing to do what you are willing to spend to become a success.
In just, no matter the costs invest in your self, your family, and your future!
Before seeking out a Real Estate course you should:
Determine what you will need to maintain your current lifestyle.
What will be your tolerance for financial risk.
How you plan to build net worth over time.
How you plan to generate extra monthly income.
What cash flow do you need to become financially independent.
Read, Read, Read. You are encouraged to always have a book with you on real estate investing. Read 5 to 10 pages from a real estate investment book each day. With this goal, you'd be reading over five books a year. 1,000's of pages of knowledge. Vary few will take this level and that's what will separate you from the rest!
Knowledge is power! Applied knowledge is success!
The characteristics of a winner are preparation, specialization, organization, intellect and effort. These same self-confident qualities, you, as an investor will bring to your goals. If you want to be a winner, associate with winners.
You can duplicate a few simple steps for success:
Establish your real estate business
*Determine the business set up
*Develop a business plan
*Order business cards, letterhead, and any office supplies and equipment
Set long-term and short-term goals; determine the results you want to achieve; focus on the goal and not the journey. Goals must be:
*Specific and measurable
*Use action words
*Believable and achievable
*Include target completion dates
Attend real estate Training classes and seminars often
*Attend with a positive, willing to learn attitude
*Take extensive notes and ask questions
*For hands-on training, inquire about "Mentor Programs"
Find a coach that will help you with
*Answers to specific questions
*Review of your property proposals
*Writing an offer
The "Haves":
Desire/Drive
Commitment/Dedication
Education
Courage
Optimism
Determination
Discipline
Experience
Perseverance
Organization
The "Have-Nots":
Fear of the Unknown
Procrastination
Lack of Education
Complacency
Poor Self Control
Fear of Success
World of Scarcity
Skepticism
Low self-esteem
Hopelessness
It is this simple some have made it a success and some have not and the ones that have not scream the loudest so they do not have to look within their own failure.
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