I listened in on this conf call last Tues and everything sounds great. I know of one investor that took the class with Ron Legrand and they sd it was very helpful. I did not get a chance to talk with him again to see how much he learned from the course. He was an alumni and I contacted him just to get general info about newbie investing. If I hear anything else I will let you you. After you all attend let me know how it went. It seems that you gain a lot of knowledge just reading these forums.
i kind of felt that he was just there to try and sell his course becasue i asked him some detailed questions at the end and he wouldnt answer them. like he said he is trying to get people to join his team. dont let him fool you he is trying to help himself more than anybody. send me a PM and ill catch you sat.
There are no shortcuts. Period. The seminars are great for motivation... and for making you realize that there are opportunities out there...but there are only a few basics that must be learned, and most of that is available in the information that has been posted (or in articles) on TCI. The rest is technique and your own attention to detail and professionalism.
Despite what they might pitch... this ain't a cookie cutter technique.
Oh, I've been doing shorts since 1979 or 1980.... long before they became fashionable. There ain't nuthin new under the sun. Even if it has a fancy new wrapper.
i was also at the meeting and will attend his saturday lecture. i stuck around afterwards to grill him on a few questions, he definetly wasnt trying to give up any specifics. he makes it sound easy so that you invest in his course or join his bootcamp. i thought it was funny that he was showing 100,000 dollar checks that he has cashed to lure people in, i heard one guy ask him if he was a millionair and the guy was sold on this one fact. it was also funny that he made it sound like selling multi million dollar houses in 30 days was a peice of cake. i have seen houses that expensive sit on the market for decades. anyways just my opinion hope to see you all their. Jeb.
lost mit. people never even showed up, he probably just wanted us to go so we could sign up for his bootcamp. i guess he will have them at his bootcamp and they will be behind some lighted screen so all you can see is their shadows, he obviously dosnt want to give up his insiders. any ways he talked about calling up the lost mitigators and said to never tell them your an investor. just tell them you "where looking to do a short and wanted to buy the house" he said if they ask you if your an investor after you tell them that then just say it again "i want to buy the house and im looking to do a shortsale thats all" like your annoid that they even asked. any ways i learned some things that i didnt know, but i felt like it was all a ploy to get people to help him buy his own island in the bahamas. i guess he will finance this by selling people his course and bootcamp and his affiliate program which you have to buy the whole anchalota to be a part of.
I was at the meeting today 8/21, typically I think it is a scam type of deal. He stated in the beginning after the first break that only 15 of the groups of about 70 could join. That was only to creat a buzz. All day they were signing up the suckers they could find. I don't think the information is anything of value to join the bootcamp.
I listened to an Ullmer seminar the other day on private money. THis cost about $600 I think direct from him and was mostly fluff. IN fact the first two hours were joking and real superficial nonsense. If you want value for your money go to the Colorado REI two day affair in October (9,10) and you will hear a lot of top names and I think it is probably less t han 200 for a couple. NOt sure, I do know they have sold out the last three years running. Many states have great two day bootcamps t hrough their REI clubs that are a fraction of the "big names" costs.
With what I have heard 4 hours into the Ullmer product I am going to try and get something by Cowgill on the same subject and hope it is more substantial.
i was also at the meeting today and i did not like how he was trying to get people to join the boot camp, but at the same time i respect him for what he does and i do think it was worth 79.00. did did give some good loss mit info and ways to postpone the sale. over all i liked it and was a well spent 79.00. i will say one thing though. it was not essential. thanks Ryan.. P.S. you are from Greenwich? will you be at the next cromwell meeting..The street card that was in the back of the room with the 2 fam. house was mine (didnt know if you were looking at it or not).
I have been to kaller's bootcamp. I never got all the things I was promised. Even after emailing and calling their office. It is alot of good information, but not worth the price. I could have just gotten his book, and done as well. He promises to partner on any large deal you get (anything over $500000 cost). BUT, the numbers have to be where he wants them. So, your profit margin may be considerably less than his. Hence your deals may not all add up. He has done well though, and I got the impression he is alot about the sale to the student too.
sunre, let me ask you this. Did you or should should i say were you able to do a deal right after you finished the bootcamp and make back all of your money? What did he actually offer that was worth 4000.00 or how ever much money it cost for the boot camp? Was it just a scam that he set up so that he can live on an Island? He told us that his main goal was to buy and island in the Keys and build a huge port and mansion on the highest point. what are your thoughts?
i was at the meeting at cromwell the other night. i dont know what i think of him. i will be there on sat again. hope to see you there, Ryan
I feel the same. I'll be there saturday as well.
I listened in on this conf call last Tues and everything sounds great. I know of one investor that took the class with Ron Legrand and they sd it was very helpful. I did not get a chance to talk with him again to see how much he learned from the course. He was an alumni and I contacted him just to get general info about newbie investing. If I hear anything else I will let you you. After you all attend let me know how it went. It seems that you gain a lot of knowledge just reading these forums.
Good Luck!!!!!!!
i kind of felt that he was just there to try and sell his course becasue i asked him some detailed questions at the end and he wouldnt answer them. like he said he is trying to get people to join his team. dont let him fool you he is trying to help himself more than anybody. send me a PM and ill catch you sat.
There are no shortcuts. Period. The seminars are great for motivation... and for making you realize that there are opportunities out there...but there are only a few basics that must be learned, and most of that is available in the information that has been posted (or in articles) on TCI. The rest is technique and your own attention to detail and professionalism.
Despite what they might pitch... this ain't a cookie cutter technique.
Oh, I've been doing shorts since 1979 or 1980.... long before they became fashionable. There ain't nuthin new under the sun. Even if it has a fancy new wrapper.
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I agree SSP
How do I convince my buddy who went through the training. That it's better to take it slow and try to do it like some of you guys?
He's the one with the funds and the general real estate knowledge
Niceguy
i was also at the meeting and will attend his saturday lecture. i stuck around afterwards to grill him on a few questions, he definetly wasnt trying to give up any specifics. he makes it sound easy so that you invest in his course or join his bootcamp. i thought it was funny that he was showing 100,000 dollar checks that he has cashed to lure people in, i heard one guy ask him if he was a millionair and the guy was sold on this one fact. it was also funny that he made it sound like selling multi million dollar houses in 30 days was a peice of cake. i have seen houses that expensive sit on the market for decades. anyways just my opinion hope to see you all their. Jeb.
lost mit. people never even showed up, he probably just wanted us to go so we could sign up for his bootcamp. i guess he will have them at his bootcamp and they will be behind some lighted screen so all you can see is their shadows, he obviously dosnt want to give up his insiders. any ways he talked about calling up the lost mitigators and said to never tell them your an investor. just tell them you "where looking to do a short and wanted to buy the house" he said if they ask you if your an investor after you tell them that then just say it again "i want to buy the house and im looking to do a shortsale thats all" like your annoid that they even asked. any ways i learned some things that i didnt know, but i felt like it was all a ploy to get people to help him buy his own island in the bahamas. i guess he will finance this by selling people his course and bootcamp and his affiliate program which you have to buy the whole anchalota to be a part of.
I was at the meeting today 8/21, typically I think it is a scam type of deal. He stated in the beginning after the first break that only 15 of the groups of about 70 could join. That was only to creat a buzz. All day they were signing up the suckers they could find. I don't think the information is anything of value to join the bootcamp.
I listened to an Ullmer seminar the other day on private money. THis cost about $600 I think direct from him and was mostly fluff. IN fact the first two hours were joking and real superficial nonsense. If you want value for your money go to the Colorado REI two day affair in October (9,10) and you will hear a lot of top names and I think it is probably less t han 200 for a couple. NOt sure, I do know they have sold out the last three years running. Many states have great two day bootcamps t hrough their REI clubs that are a fraction of the "big names" costs.
With what I have heard 4 hours into the Ullmer product I am going to try and get something by Cowgill on the same subject and hope it is more substantial.
Randall
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i was also at the meeting today and i did not like how he was trying to get people to join the boot camp, but at the same time i respect him for what he does and i do think it was worth 79.00. did did give some good loss mit info and ways to postpone the sale. over all i liked it and was a well spent 79.00. i will say one thing though. it was not essential. thanks Ryan.. P.S. you are from Greenwich? will you be at the next cromwell meeting..The street card that was in the back of the room with the 2 fam. house was mine (didnt know if you were looking at it or not).
I have been to kaller's bootcamp. I never got all the things I was promised. Even after emailing and calling their office. It is alot of good information, but not worth the price. I could have just gotten his book, and done as well. He promises to partner on any large deal you get (anything over $500000 cost). BUT, the numbers have to be where he wants them. So, your profit margin may be considerably less than his. Hence your deals may not all add up. He has done well though, and I got the impression he is alot about the sale to the student too.
sunre, let me ask you this. Did you or should should i say were you able to do a deal right after you finished the bootcamp and make back all of your money? What did he actually offer that was worth 4000.00 or how ever much money it cost for the boot camp? Was it just a scam that he set up so that he can live on an Island? He told us that his main goal was to buy and island in the Keys and build a huge port and mansion on the highest point. what are your thoughts?