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Hold the presses -
Abalos gave his site a revision, which now says the following under Refund policy:
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We occasionally have to change event venues, locations, and even dates due to circumstances beyond our control such as illness, family emergencies, or problems with participants. Should we reschedule a seminar date, you will be informed of the new date with as much notice as possible. You will also be able to use your current seminar ticket at the new seminar date. There are no refunds should we be forced to reschedule a seminar date for Acts of God or circumstances beyond our control.
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This is the story he told to the purchasers of his tickets who did not get refunds.
First of all, I find it appalling that anyone would have a no-refund policy on a $2,000 seminar. Every guru I know of, including all the ones Abalos rags on, have guarantees and refund policies for seminars.
Second, it is even more appalling that someone would reserve the right to cancel or reschedule an event without offering someone there money back!
One person emailed me and said that Abalos cancelled the Houston seminar on him because of "security" reasons, then said he could use the ticket for another even in another city, but no refund.
Unbelievable!
I too was scammed by Abalos. When will we receive justice?
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On 2005-08-10 18:32, rehabman wrote:
I too was scammed by Abalos. When will we receive justice?
Rehabman,
Can you please explain how you were "scammed by Abalos"? Can you publish emails with Abalos or other evidence here to support your claim? Dates and times would be helpful too. Other readers here would appreciate it.
Thanks,
Logan.
The "worst real estate book in history" was given a "12 on a scale of 10" rating by Robert Bruss, who is an attorney, real estate broker and investor whose articles are syndicated in over 300 newspapers nationwide every week.
FYI, Robert Bruss also thinks that buying subject to, lease/options are other "creative real estate" financing ideas are valid.
Examples:
http://tinyurl.com/dv4py
http://tinyurl.com/7shvn
So, whose opinion has more credibility, Robert Bruss, one of the most respected names in the real estate business, or Robert Abalos, a legend in his own mind?
Anyone with a complaint should try to call him at the hotel where his seminar is in Atlanta. I wonder what he will say?
Nice try, Bob.
Mr. Bronchick,
Thanks for the correction about attorney disbarment -- I know little about attorneydom and their rules.
"land developer" = mows lawns?
Logan.
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On 2005-08-30 22:24, AugustWest wrote:
This picture definitely is NOT the Robert J Abalos you are looking for. The one you are looking for is a little..uh.. rounder and definitely not athletic. He is in his mid forties and graduated from Law School in the mid eighties. (Yes I have met the man on several occasions) I sincerely doubt if he was ever married let alone separated or divorced.
So you have actually met Robert J. Abalos? What was that like? Can you describe him more..uh...fully?
BIll,
I am curious if the seminar attendee had any comment about the content of the seminar. How did Mr Abalos interact with the audience?
Apparently he is scheduling a seminar at the Peninsula Hotel in Beverly HIlls, CA Oct 29th & 30th. Which was originally dates set for his Moscow seminar. This gets more & more comical by the minute.
Bill,
If he is selling three books a month that he never has to print or deliver, his profit margin is astronomical.
(tongue in cheek)
Robert Abalos has now officially made the ForeclosuresDOTcom "gurus to avoid" list. I would encourage anyone who has paid money for a product or seminar from Abalos (or anyone else) and did not get the product or a refund to notify that site.
As of Sept 10th, I have not yet received a copy of the Real Estated Investor Magazine which was promised to ship no later than August 31st.
Has anyone yet received their copy of the magazine?
There is no mention of the magazine shipping in the Investing in Land Newsletter on Yahoo.
Larry,
Excellent letter -- it was well-written, appropriate, and restrained. Unfortunately, I think you wrote to a man suffering from severe psychopathy.
Logan.
Can any of you offer any insight on his materials? I think I have seen enough about him personally. You can still buy his book off of Amazon for a decent price. I would not order direclty from him because of these posts. Has anyone used his techniques to purchase or do anything else with land. I saw the book list someone else had posted. Has anyone used any of these books to actually buy land?
If you have ordered a product from Mr. Robert J. Abalos’s website www.investinginland.com and have received nothing in return, there is something you can do.
I’d recommend writing up your complaint in a word processor and then going to each of the starred websites and pasting it into their complaint forms.
Merchant Services
*Yahoo Store Feedback
http://add.yahoo.com/fast/help/shop/cgi_merchant
Government Agencies
*The Internet Fraud Complaint Center (IFCC)
a partnership between the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI)
and the National White Collar Crime Center (NW3C)
http://www.ifccfbi.gov/index.asp
*Office of the Attorney General – the State of Washington
http://www.atg.wa.gov/consumer/forms/index.shtml
*U.S. Postal Inspection Service - Mail Fraud Complaint
https://www.usps.com/postalinspectors/fraud/MailFraudComplaint.htm
*The Federal Trade Commission
https://rn.ftc.gov/pls/dod/wsolcq$.startup?Z_ORG_CODE=PU01
Consumer Watchdogs
*The National Fraud Information Center / Internet Fraud Watch
http://www.fraud.org/welcome.htm
*The Better Business Bureau (serving the Seattle area)
http://www.thebbb.org/commoncomplaint.html
Television – Investigative Reporting
60 Minutes – CBS News
http://www.cbsnews.com/sections/60minutes/main3415.shtml
(“Contact Us” is at the very bottom of the page)
Dateline – NBC news
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3303518/
KOMO News - Channel 4 - Seattle (ABC Affiliate)
http://www.komotv.com/contact/
KIRO News - Channel 7 - Seattle (CBS Affiliate)
http://www.kirotv.com/contact/index.html
KING News – Channel 5 – Seattle (NBC Affiliate)
http://www.king5.com/helpcenter/
Radio – News Talk Stations
KIRO 710 Newsradio (Seattle)
http://www.kiro710.com/
KOMO 1000 Newsradio (Seattle)
http://www.komotv.com/contact/
Newspapers
The Seattle Post-Intelligencer
News tips for the investigations team:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/facts/pistaff.shtml
The King County Journal
http://www.kingcountyjournal.com/contact_us.html
Law Enforcement
City of Kent Police Department
http://www.ci.kent.wa.us/police/index.asp
Wow, Larry, thanks for conducting all that valuable research for us. I will definitely take advantage of it, and strongly encourage others here who have been ripped off by Robert J. Abalos to do the same.
Logan.
[ Edited by LFINDFW on Date 09/17/2005 ]
New complaint added to www.Foreclosures.com today:
Hello,
Definitely add scumbag Robert Abalos to your list. I ordered book from him and never received it. Office is pathetic and insists I am the only one complaining. Thank you,
Email to www.Foreclosures.com on 9/19/05 byRay Mashler
What a sad state of affairs.
So if Abalos was evicted from his $2,550.00 per month high rise apartment by a King County judge for non-payment of rent on January 11, 2005:
1. How in the world can anyone take Robert J. Abalos seriously as a real estate investment expert?
2. Where is he sleeping at night now? At his executive suite rental? In a cardboard box on some public beach somewhere? In a less expensive low-rise apartment somewhere in Kent, WA?
Only time will tell...
the only known seminar that was hosted up-to-date was in Atlanta.
Hi, Ines,
And this was on his website until sometime in June or July - months after he knew these interviews did not occur. He had months to remove this from the website but left it there.
OUR PREMIER ISSUE, VOLUME 1, ISSUE 1 (supposed to ship March 31st)
Subjects Include All the Following:
An interview with real estate author John T. Reed
Sometimes controversial but always informative veteran real estate author John T. Reed discusses the real estate information industry...
An interview with real estate paper expert William J. Mencarow
There is no better source of information on real estate notes and paper than The Paper Source Journal and the website ...
[ Edited by larrylef on Date 09/25/2005 ]
updated investinginland web site:
"Two International Investing in Land Live Seminars are being held in the United States.
October 29-30, 2005 at the Peninsula Beverly Hills Hotel in Los Angeles California.
November 12-13, 2005 at the Ritz-Carlton Central Park Hotel in New York City.
The remainder are being held in Europe, Asia, and South America and these dates have been SOLD OUT."
SOLD OUT? WHO believes that?
John T. Reed has an article on his web site "How to get refunds from bad gurus
by John T. Reed"
Maybe he can suggest how the customers can get refund from his good friend Abalos,?
This was removed from investinginland web site:
“Two International Investing in Land Live Seminars are being held in the United States.
October 29-30, 2005 at the Peninsula Beverly Hills Hotel in Los Angeles California .
November 12-13, 2005 at the Ritz-Carlton Central Park Hotel in New York City .
The remainder are being held in Europe, Asia, and South America .
September 10-11, 2005 London, England
September 17-18, 2005 Paris, France
September 24-25, 2005 Rome, Italy October 8-9, 2005 Athens, Greece
October 22-23, 2005 Johannesburg, South Africa
November 5-6, 2005 New Delhi, India
November 26-27, 2005 Tokyo, Japan
December 10-11, 2005 Buenos Aires, Argentina
December 17-18, 2005 Mexico City, Mexico”
*** In order to be able to
“"Combating Creative Real Estate Scams: Holding the Gurus Who Teach Them Legally Responsible"
at SOLD OUT seminars outside of the U.S.
Mr. Abalos will have stress, by traveling back and forth, since this “combating” is scheduled, as follows:
“This full day CLE program will take place at two locations.
Tuesday, November 15, 2005 in Washington, DC
Tuesday, November 29, 2005 in Denver, Colorado “”
*** From New Delhi, India (Nov 5-6) to Washington, DC (Nov 15) ... then to Tokyo, Japan (Nov 26-27) ... to go back to the US, Denver, CO (Nov 29) ...
... tteaching in Argentina and Mexico in December is a piece of cake then *g
Source: **http://www.store.yahoo.com/investinginland/coleedprforl.html** store.yahoo*com/investinginland/coleedproforl*html
I forgot to copy that:
"To celebrate the release of the new book, INTERNATIONAL LAND INVESTMENT AND DEVELOPMENT by Robert J. Abalos, Esq., he will be taking his famous Investing in Land Live Seminar around the world."
***When was/will be this book released? Does anyone knows something about?
Does someone believe that it will be ever printed?
Logan,
once again, great post! Thank you!
Abalos is BSing, as always ...
If you want to know my opinion, after meeting Mr. BigShot in person? - He never had any substantial money in his life, and I doubt very much, he ever done any of the deals he is talking/writing about.
Larry,
I feel sorry for people like Ron Brown.
Ines,
The sad thing is that everyone loses when unconsciousness runs rampant.[ Edited by larrylef on Date 09/28/2005 ]
Hi, Ines,
I think Abalos definitely loses;
1) reputation
2) investigations by government agencies, law enforcement and the media
3) tremendous amounts of time defending himself
The fact that his losses are all self-inflicted speaks to deeper issues.
no moderator has received any request by Mr. Abalos to delete anything in this thread whatsoever.
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On 2005-09-30 07:36, woodsong wrote:
no moderator has received any request by Mr. Abalos to delete anything in this thread whatsoever.
Woodsong,
Thanks for that insight.
Is Mr. Abalos free to post here under his own name or has he been banned by the moderators from this forum?
Thanks,
Logan.
Dear woodsong,
I didn’t expect to get ALL forms, contracts, etc. … I expected to get at least some of those …
It is common to use an attorney for commercial deals, anyway …. Buying, or optioning raw land could be done without (it depends).
You are right, there is no way to learn in 1 day … but step by step it is possible.
My experience with GAREIA is very minimal; I have attended the general meeting only once, and have been to some small classes that have been taught there (which were good).
Ask GAREIA … I will be your student then
Best regards, neighbor
Ines
amazing, that it took Abalos more than 6 months, besides of massive complaints from his customers, to decide that he NO LONGER WANTS to publish the magazine ...
Quote from his newsletter:
"Full refunds are being processed for all print subscribers. Since I promised a print magazine and no longer want to publish one this is only fair. "
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Does he really understand what is fair?
Real Estate Investor Magazine has decided to go online and elimininate its paper edition (** never existent **). If you are a current subscriber to this publication you will be issued a full refund.
**www.reinvestormagazine.com**
Larry,
you should get a refund then soon, too
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Dear Forum Moderator:
May I ask why you have deleted my 2 posts with the information about the price-reduction of live seminars?
What is inappropriate about?
It is important information for me, i.e., and maybe for others, too.
If the price for “any of the live seminars” without the “standard seminar package” is valued at $495.00, I can conclude that the value of the materials I didn’t receive is $ 500.00. That will be the amount I will continue to claim.
Hello woodsong,
Maybe I got confused, as a newbie to the forum(s), and thought this thread is exclusively for keeping people whom Abalos owes money updated about what he does. What he IS, we know already.
I don’t want to beat this horse to death, either. I have enough information now (thanks to your forum, and this thread) to make my own decisions how to proceed.
I appreciate the opportunity to learn from you and other forum visitors. I am definitely interested in land/Re much-much more than in Abalos
Thank you for your offer to email you – I might do so one day … after I know where to find your email-address
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On 2005-10-01 17:56, woodsong wrote:
We have graciously allowed everything to continue while the truth was sought and research obtained...
True that -- Thank you!
Logan.
Logan,
Thank you, too!
For your engagement and researches ...
and Thanks to everyone for your support
Hi, Logan,
I was already wondering, if someone else received a refund ... and not only for the magazine, also, for all other products Abalos failed to deliver.
I disputed charges by phone, have nothing in writing, yet. If he protested to a refund of the seminar fee, I will get a letter from BoA.
I just opened a letter from Bank of America. The amount of $79.85 was credited because of my dispute. If Abalos contests, it will be debited, again.
So, NO voluntarily refund ...
Hi, Logan,
I have received no refund from Abalos as of today.
Thanks Woodsong,
One more question: How do you keep the neighbors from talking and comparing prices?
Thanks
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On 2005-10-17 22:14, MarkyMark wrote:
Thanks Woodsong,
One more question: How do you keep the neighbors from talking and comparing prices?
Thanks
Try mental telepathy............
NC