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On 2003-10-04 08:32, GFous wrote:
I have even helped them with my truck to move. Much better to have a tenant that leaves owing you than one that stays and owes you.
I whole heartedly agree with you, though I have a sad tale. I had a tenant that hit a legal limbo with. They finally moved out. The hubby was trying to move a pool table up the back hill when I showed up. I helped him get it and a few other small items into his truck. Shook hands and he even made a comment about me being not so bad. Then WHAM - 2 weeks later a lawsuit shows up at my front door. One which I still don't understand.
I had to get a court ordered eviction which was served yesterday. The order said I was entitled to immediate possesion. That was Sept 19. Now he has 5 days to be moved out or the sheriff will physically remove him. If he leaves his belongings I have to post a $1500 bond at the clerks office so they can hire amovimg company to come & pack his things with a sherriff present. What an ordeal to have to go through.
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On 2003-10-04 09:00, Lethe wrote:
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On 2003-10-04 08:32, GFous wrote:
I have even helped them with my truck to move. Much better to have a tenant that leaves owing you than one that stays and owes you.
I whole heartedly agree with you, though I have a sad tale. I had a tenant that hit a legal limbo with. They finally moved out. The hubby was trying to move a pool table up the back hill when I showed up. I helped him get it and a few other small items into his truck. Shook hands and he even made a comment about me being not so bad. Then WHAM - 2 weeks later a lawsuit shows up at my front door. One which I still don't understand.
DaveREI has the most enlightened solution. If only he was around a few decades ago when I first started landlording. The carrot approach is better than the stick approach.
If you have to go through the courts, be sure to follow to the letter the eviction process. Especially, the care and inventoring of personal property. I have a friend who didn't and it cost him $60,000 + attorney's fees.[ Edited by sammyvegas on Date 10/06/2003 ]
Quote:Offer them $300 to pack and leave in 72 hours without destroying the property...cash payable when they are at the curb ready to roll.....You might cobble up a lease termination agreement that includes mutual releases, just as a firewall in case they were thinking of turning around and suing. The $300 should be sufficient consideration to suppport enforcement of it almost regardless of whatever went on before.
The key is start the paperwork!! Look at your state laws and what paperwork you have to file and deliever to them. In NM I must deliver 2 notices and legally able to do it after they are 5 days late.
Download the legal forms and deliver the first one immediately. What I like to do is hand deliver & NOTARIZE each one.
Each time I've done this the tenant gets back in shape. I always show up at 6am on the weekend - SAT & SUN. You must make sure you're not being a nuisance or don't break the 'landlord retaliation' laws of your state. I also like to follow up my first 'late rent notice' with a '24 hour notice of inspection' - tenants don't like when you show up at 6am to do an inspection. Make sure you ask pl\enty of questions.
Thanks for the creative idea Dave. I actually tried it and it worked perfectly! I had a tenant in a low income apartment so I only paid them $100, but they immediately quit dragging their feet and moved out.
knock on the door..
Offer them $300 to pack and leave in 72 hours without destroying the property...cash payable when they are at the curb ready to roll.....
Tell them nicely of course.....
had to do it 2 times now.... works great
Its cheaper then repairs , court costs, holding costs, etc......
What happens when everythings not so smooth? And they want to stay?
also bring a new set of locks with you and let all the neighbors know they moved out.....
you have a place to rent.....
Go through the motions...
court
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On 2003-10-03 20:33, dare2003 wrote:
What happens when everythings not so smooth? And they want to stay?
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On 2003-10-03 20:36, DaveREI wrote:
Go through the motions...
court
sounds messy...$300 sounds like a better plan
I have even helped them with my truck to move. Much better to have a tenant that leaves owing you than one that stays and owes you.
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On 2003-10-04 08:32, GFous wrote:
I have even helped them with my truck to move. Much better to have a tenant that leaves owing you than one that stays and owes you.
I whole heartedly agree with you, though I have a sad tale. I had a tenant that hit a legal limbo with. They finally moved out. The hubby was trying to move a pool table up the back hill when I showed up. I helped him get it and a few other small items into his truck. Shook hands and he even made a comment about me being not so bad. Then WHAM - 2 weeks later a lawsuit shows up at my front door. One which I still don't understand.
I had to get a court ordered eviction which was served yesterday. The order said I was entitled to immediate possesion. That was Sept 19. Now he has 5 days to be moved out or the sheriff will physically remove him. If he leaves his belongings I have to post a $1500 bond at the clerks office so they can hire amovimg company to come & pack his things with a sherriff present. What an ordeal to have to go through.
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On 2003-10-04 09:00, Lethe wrote:
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On 2003-10-04 08:32, GFous wrote:
I have even helped them with my truck to move. Much better to have a tenant that leaves owing you than one that stays and owes you.
I whole heartedly agree with you, though I have a sad tale. I had a tenant that hit a legal limbo with. They finally moved out. The hubby was trying to move a pool table up the back hill when I showed up. I helped him get it and a few other small items into his truck. Shook hands and he even made a comment about me being not so bad. Then WHAM - 2 weeks later a lawsuit shows up at my front door. One which I still don't understand.
Why can't you just put his stuff on the curb? That's what they do in my town.
DaveREI has the most enlightened solution. If only he was around a few decades ago when I first started landlording. The carrot approach is better than the stick approach.
If you have to go through the courts, be sure to follow to the letter the eviction process. Especially, the care and inventoring of personal property. I have a friend who didn't and it cost him $60,000 + attorney's fees.[ Edited by sammyvegas on Date 10/06/2003 ]
I have heard of landlords who developed a sudden need to paint the unit's doors. Offsite. Tenants tend to leave a unit that lacks doors.
However, there may be caselaw or even statutes in your state that makes this a no-no.
Quote:Offer them $300 to pack and leave in 72 hours without destroying the property...cash payable when they are at the curb ready to roll.....You might cobble up a lease termination agreement that includes mutual releases, just as a firewall in case they were thinking of turning around and suing. The $300 should be sufficient consideration to suppport enforcement of it almost regardless of whatever went on before.
The key is start the paperwork!! Look at your state laws and what paperwork you have to file and deliever to them. In NM I must deliver 2 notices and legally able to do it after they are 5 days late.
Download the legal forms and deliver the first one immediately. What I like to do is hand deliver & NOTARIZE each one.
Each time I've done this the tenant gets back in shape. I always show up at 6am on the weekend - SAT & SUN. You must make sure you're not being a nuisance or don't break the 'landlord retaliation' laws of your state. I also like to follow up my first 'late rent notice' with a '24 hour notice of inspection' - tenants don't like when you show up at 6am to do an inspection. Make sure you ask pl\enty of questions.
I agree with Dave.
But I like that inspection at 6:00am.
But are they really going to open the door.
RK
Thanks for the creative idea Dave. I actually tried it and it worked perfectly! I had a tenant in a low income apartment so I only paid them $100, but they immediately quit dragging their feet and moved out.
Thanks,
Kent
I like the one where 3 Big-Bad Hells Angels pull up on Choppers, park on the lawn, tell the tenant they have a rental agreement, starting tomorrow.
They say, "looks like we are going to be roommates, by the way, nice looking Wife & Daughter you have!"