2 Questions

I have been reading through the information in this forum is great, thanks.

I am about to buy my first investment home and I have two main questions:

1) The property is about $125k and I am looking at closing costs of around $7500 out of pocket. I have read a few posts that suggest there are ways around using money out of your own pocket to pay these fees. Any sugestions? and

2) I plan on this purchase being the first of many as I want to make a career/living out of real estate investing. Rather than all of the affairs (lease payments, complaints, etc) being personally addressed to me as the landlord for my tenants should I create a sole proprietorship/corporation to serve as a conduit between myself and the tenants? I ask with the thought of tax consideration in mind, legal purposes (if I were sued they would sue the corp, not me) as well as I don't want my tenants directly contacting me. I would rather they contact a corporation.

Looking forward to the responses and I hope to be as knowledgable on this topic enough someday to help contribute to others' questions.

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  • edmeyer28th January, 2004

    1) You can try to get the seller to pay for closing costs. I have done this and increased the price a bit so this is financed over long term (30 year loan). Sometimes the banks will limit the amount that a seller will pay for closing costs, however, they may be more favorable to 'carpet allowances' etc.

    2) You will get a variety of opinions on this. I have my tenants mail my checks to my house and I try very hard to maintain good relations with them. I am looking into putting properties into corporations (particularly LLCs) and/or land trusts. I have run into some problems that need to be solved. My insurance agent told me that the two main insurers they deal with will not insure properties in either a corporation or a trust. Their solution is to have an umbrella policy and they claim that that is what most of their investor clients do. (What a surprise! If I went to a surgeon with an illness I am sure that the recommendation would be surgery.)

    When you say you don't want your tenants contacting you, you must be planning on property management. If they need a repair and contact your corporation, who will respond?

    These are just my thoughts and you will likely get opinions that run counter to mine.

    Regards,
    Ed

  • onamission29th January, 2004

    Great, thanks Ed

  • myfrogger29th January, 2004

    You should have no problem finding insurance under a corporation's name. My experience it is actually much easier!

  • Tedjr29th January, 2004

    I had a clerk at Farmers tell me that I could not buy ins as a Corp. I hung up and called back and get another clerk that said no problem. Never take no for an answer.

    Good LUCK and Thank You
    Hope this helps some
    Ted Jr

  • edmeyer29th January, 2004

    Thanks, frogger and Ted

    I suspect that I may be running into an uninformed clerk as well. One of the insurers I was referring to is Farmers. the reason I was given that they don't insure corporations is that corporations get sued more than individuals. I tried to explain that corporate structures might be set up to discourage law suits, but the response suggested I might be dealing with a monolithic bureaucracy.

    It was the next day when I asked about trusts suggesting that trusts get sued rarely. I never got a reason why they might not insure properties in trusts.

    I don't think I will have too much problem overcoming this, but I thank both of you for your inputs.

    Regards,
    Ed

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